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Look, guys, I didn't use a stopwatch or anything to time the pulse length... I only suggested there was a 9.5 second "effect" length to try to make it clear to those who aren't the "stopwatch and spreadsheet" types to understand that there is a problem with the way mythic checks the charm effect.

It could very well be the way Danyan explains it - it could be that the "Effect length" is really a full 10 seconds, and the way the mythic PROGRAM CODE is written is that it runs the code for the resists BEFORE it runs the code for a pulse, which could result in the split second resists that we see.

It could therefore also be possible that the mentalist code was written the other way around so that the code processes the mentalists pulse before it processes the resist.

The only way to know these things for sure is to whip out a stopwatch, and time and count the pulses for several minutes, and divide. I don't think it's necessary when you can simply watch and see that ANY time a minstrels pet resists ONCE, you can COUNT on it breaking charm, even if for a split second, before the next pulse either recharms it or fails.

Also, for those who may be reading this and getting confused, let me try to use terms that may be easier to understand...

A minstrel charm is a 10(or 9.5) second "EFFECT". that means that if you were to target a mob, hit the charm key, and then cancel it, that mob would be charmed for the duration of the EFFECT even if it stopped (for example, if you immediately tap speed song after starting charm, the charm effect is dropped - and you have 9.5 seconds before you better re-start charm and hope it sticks).

The minstrel charm PULSES every 5 seconds. That means that once a mob has been charmed on the first pulse, it will remain charmed for the full 9.5 seconds. The spell, however, won't wait until that time runs out - it will REPULSE the spell after only 5 seconds. This means the pulses overlap by 4.5 seconds. By the time the spell pulses again, the mob would normally still have another 4.5 seconds that he would have been under the EFFECT, but now the EFFECT has started over, and the mob now has another 9.5 seconds to go.

If minstrel charms a mob, and the pulse is successful, the mob will be charmed for 9.5 seconds. If the NEXT pulse is RESISTSED, then by the time that pulse happened, the monster will still have 4.5 seconds to remain under the EFFECT from the last pulse, even though the new pulse failed. The mob will reach the end of the EFFECT a split second before the next charm PULSE would happen, so even if that next charm pulse is going to be succesful, the mob will still AGGRO THE MINSTREL for a split second. This causes the mob that your pet was fighting to wipe it's aggro list and come after the minstrel.

If Mentalists have an easier time handling resists because their pulse and/or effect length, or even if it's just the order in which the program was written, then they deserve it - their charm burns mana. I have no problem with it if theirs is better in that regard.

Thanks for the comments...

Did you really charm a SEER?